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Title: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Ringer on March 09, 2010, 08:24:40 am
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/goldlist/2009/01/search-for-10-5.html

Is this one of  the reasons Bob Buckland Tory PPC has been :-X on wifi?
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Bobby Bingo on March 09, 2010, 08:42:04 am
What planet does Buckland come from.?
No wonder he is so quiet on Talk Swindon he has not got a clue what is happenning in Swindon.
Arise Sir Robert? As the Queen would say "We are not amused"
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Trollee on March 09, 2010, 09:04:32 am
i am glad robert buckland is not my candidate
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: kecl on March 09, 2010, 09:19:25 am
Just one point of order here, this story was posted in January 2009 - hardly up to date news is it! :)
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Provocateur on March 09, 2010, 09:34:35 am
No, but the silence since is deafening, is it not? Once again, clear evidence that the Tory PR machine has decided that its better to hide than to takle issues (Wi-Fi and the regeneration) which call the competance of their senior councillor into serious question. Not the actions of people 'working hard for the people of Swindon'. call into serious question Bluhs competance

I think thats a dangerously flawed strategy. It gives the Labour group plenty of time to make mischief - it could well become the defining issue of the election. Far better to take a moral (and ethically RIGHT) stance, get to grips with it - and if necessary say some difficult things and take the proper action.

Its so ironic that TS is peppered with potential conservative voters - but our supposed potential representatives have so far shown a contemptible lack of backbone on this issue. Shame on them
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Trollee on March 09, 2010, 09:42:12 am
did i hear on the radio today that the polls are neck and neck
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Steve Wakefield on March 09, 2010, 10:02:51 am
I contacted Bob via email this morning and later spoke to Bob all I would say from that conversation is that Bob will blog on an issue before tomorrow night, so watch his blog. He will get into the campaign after that blog.  :fence:
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Steve Wakefield on March 09, 2010, 10:05:52 am
Just one point of order here, this story was posted in January 2009 - hardly up to date news is it! :)

I agree, but it is better that info comes out (good, bad or indifferent) and get discussed kicked around earlier in the campaign rather than later, it can save any :emb: if there is any? Now instead of a day or two before the polls take place.  :angel:
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 09, 2010, 02:13:51 pm
I'll just snatch that for posterity  :)

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No. 6: Rod Bluh

Robert Buckland writes:

(http://conservativehome.blogs.com/goldlist/images/2009/01/02/rod_bluh.png)

    Rod_bluh "I would like to nominate Rod Bluh, the leader of Swindon Council.  Rod, 53, is a Chartered Accountant and has been an active Conservative for many years, but his rise in local government has been dramatic. Elected in 2004, he entered the Swindon Cabinet as Lead Member for Economic Regeneration in 2005 and became Deputy Leader. In 2006, he was elected Leader of Swindon and under his leadership, the Council has improved dramatically and has delivered in a number of key areas, including:

       1. Continuous delivery of low Council Tax rises;
       2. The building of a new Central Library for Swindon, a project that was talked about for years under Labour but which we delivered on time and in budget;
       3. The signing of two major town centre regeneration projects.

    "Rod is reaching out to parts of the community that have never had any contact with Conservatives – he is described by many people who are now supporting us for the first time as 'a breath of fresh air'.   At this year’s Party Conference, he spoke at a number of fringe meetings on the subject of housing and local government. He has a high profile in the South West Region, and also serves on the Wiltshire Police Authority.

    “Rod played a key part in steering through the Council’s recent groundbreaking decision to pull out of the Speed Camera Partnership.  Rod leads a dynamic and forward-thinking Conservative administration that has continued to gain council seats since taking control in 2004.  Rod Bluh’s experience in leading a largely urban Unitary Authority that has made huge progress in only a few years would be a real asset to the Conservative benches in the Lords”.

Always interesting to have historical points of view to compare against actual events.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Trollee on March 09, 2010, 02:38:07 pm
2009 - 2010 amazing what difference a year makes, not a happy comparison with today
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 09, 2010, 02:41:06 pm

I look forward to reading Roberts position on Rod Bluh and Mard Edwards secret decision to involve the entire Borough Council in the WiFi'asco because, as Robert will no doubt remember, I said to him as far back as 2008 that one day he might find himself needing to decide between doing and saying the right for the residents of Swindon and what suits the Swindon conservatives.

In my opinion, the Swindon Conservative Party is the ruling majority in the council chamber and the civic duty of the 41 Conservative councillors to represent their electors has been utterly eclipsed by the wishes and aims of the local conservative party.  Each and every one of them now finds the whip system a convenient excuse for their abject failure to stand up and say "I disagree" on anything and everything from WiFi to Wobbling budgets.  I am reminded of war-crimes trials where defendants said: "I was just following orders". 

Meaningful and genuine democracy is nearly dead in Euclid Street and what remains is largely an autocratic and unitrist copy of a small scale banana republic.   

This is, I suggest, Roberts last chance to do and say the right thing in the eyes of Swindons electorate.  He'll be aware that to do so will incur the wrath of Rod Bluh and his small yet powerful band of faux-conservatives, thereby costing him some of the support he certainly needs if he's to get to parliament.

Rocks and hard places, fences, deep holes, moral compasses and elephants in rooms will all be featuring prominently in Roberts mental landscape today.
   
Is this Roberts Catch-22 moment?   :popcorn:


 
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: concerned_of_Old_Town on March 09, 2010, 06:12:42 pm
He's posted!  My first instinct is that it is what I expect and classic sitting on the fence.

 I wonder if he would be so mild if it was a labour council.  I like the bit where he thanks the council for allowing scruitiny to happen!

I also expect this be his only comment on the subject.


From Robert Bucklands blog
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The latest Tory announcement is clear recognition that the public increasingly demand openness and accountability applies at all levels of our government.  The debate in the local media about the Swindon Wi Fi project is part of this.  In a nutshell,   Swindon Council is the holder of a 35% stake in a company that aims to set up a Wi Fi network throughout the Borough.  The Council is loaning this company 450,000 pounds and the aim is to share in any profits made from this joint venture.

There is no doubt that the rolling out of Wi Fi services across Swindon is a welcome initiative.   Many local residents  still do not have the benefit of wireless internet links,  and the speed by which many link to the net is far too slow.   The prospect of a few hours of free internet access per day could be of real benefit to people who at present have no way of accessing the net.  Businesses, too, could benefit from this service.   It can be used for reading household meters and as a way of improving the care  of vulnerable people.  I understand that there are savings to be made by organisations such as the Council itself in using Wi Fi.

I very much hope that the project is a success.  The main cause of concern in the debate, however, has been about the process used in order to set up the project.   The decision to enter into the contract to participate in this joint venture was conducted in private.  It was not brought to the Council’s Cabinet for discussion or approval.   As this decision has involved the use of public money,  this process has been the subject of criticism.

My understanding is that the matter has been referred to an internal audit of the Council,  and that there has also been a complaint made to the District Auditor.  We have yet to learn whether the District Auditor will intervene.   I would expect  full co-operation from the Council if this does happen.

Tomorrow night’s  Swindon Council Cabinet will consider whether or not to allow payment of the rest of the loan by amending some of the terms of the original deal, to take account of the fact that some of the requirements of the loan have not been met.  I would like to thank the Conservative administration for taking this course of action, allowing for public scrutiny at the time the decision is made, and suggest that if the balance of the loan is to be paid, that all the existing requirements are double checked to make sure that they are realistic and can be ahered to.   

I am sure that on reflection, it would be agreed by all involved that a decision-making process that was as open as possible at all stages of this proposal would have been the best way to deal with things.   I fully understand that there were concerns about issues of commercial sensitivity, and I do not think that we have reached this situation because of deliberate subtefuge by anyone.

In the arena of public life, whether it be the world of Criminal Justice that I have inhabited for many years or the world of government,  openness should be the default position, I suggest.  This is the way proposed by David Cameron and the Conservative Party, and it is something that I strongly support.


Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: komadori on March 09, 2010, 07:40:58 pm
I think the critical parts are
Quote from: Mr Buckland (http://www.robertbuckland.co.uk/2010/03/09/the-swindon-wifi-debate/)
We have yet to learn whether the District Auditor will intervene.   I would expect  full co-operation from the Council if this does happen.
Which reads to me like a slight warning, but then

Quote from: Mr Buckland (http://www.robertbuckland.co.uk/2010/03/09/the-swindon-wifi-debate/)
suggest that if the balance of the loan is to be paid, that all the existing requirements are double checked to make sure that they are realistic and can be ahered to.   

I am sure that on reflection, it would be agreed by all involved that a decision-making process that was as open as possible at all stages of this proposal would have been the best way to deal with things.
Which looks exactly like the Bluh-party line.


I think that, on a bit more reflection, Mr Buckland might be very disappointed.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 09, 2010, 07:45:53 pm
I am afraid, in my nearly worthless opinion, the Boy Buckland has bottled it and produced a 'Tomlinsonian' reply which Annie and Victor will be very pleased with.

However, as I will shortly be collecting the winnings on a small wager I am not entirely bereft :)
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Tea Boy on March 09, 2010, 08:57:36 pm
From Robert Bucklands blog

.......... I would like to thank the Conservative administration for taking this course of action, allowing for public scrutiny at the time the decision is made, and suggest that if the balance of the loan is to be paid, that all the existing requirements are double checked to make sure that they are realistic and can be ahered to.   


So in other words as long a Rod and Rikki now cut and dice up the plan to fit the facts its all okay to go handing over more money....

Welll done Robert you spineless :censored: what will you do if they are not???


Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Provocateur on March 09, 2010, 10:18:19 pm
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I am sure that on reflection, it would be agreed by all involved that a decision-making process that was as open as possible at all stages of this proposal would have been the best way to deal with things.

Well, thats something recognised at least. BUT...

Quote
I fully understand that there were concerns about issues of commercial sensitivity, and I do not think that we have reached this situation because of deliberate subtefuge by anyone.

Do WHAT?! The little which has come to public attention has been because of the tireless efforts of TS contributors - every grain of information has had to be pried from SBC - there has been no willingness to share ANYTHING!!! EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PUBLIC MONEY BEING SPENT!!! Even if the detail was hidden from us, why was it kept from the rest of the town's elected representatives?

Would tomorrow's considerations really have happened if a bunch of concerned and non politically aligned people here not raised all of these concerns? Of course not - the goal posts of the commercial terms would almost certainly have been shifted with barely a whisper of challenge or scrutiny.

As so many others have pointed out, were this a truly commercial business plan, subject to the same scrutiny as a private business approaching a bank, no loan would have been granted to begin with - and even if it had, any further money would have been recinded on the basis of non delivery of the initial targets.

I'd like to ask Rob what he thinks to GetSignal/DigitalCity a supposedly commercial entity  apparently getting free office space in the DMJ?

Is Rob uncomfortable that there appears to have been no open tendering process for this project - especially when the main commercial beneficiary of this deal may have or have had business interests in other companies connected to SBC?

The similarity of response by Robert and that of Rikki in tomorrow's adver www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/5049959.Why_Wi_Fi_scheme_matters_to_us_all/ makes it seem that people have been assembled together to present a united message. Whether or not individuals have been persuaded to compromise in order to spare blushes and/or political disaster is very definately removed from taking difficult decisions, making public criticism where its deserved - or necessarily doing whats right for the town and its tax payers  :emb:

This is in danger of looking like pure spin in an attempt to rescue underserving individuals from a fate of their own creation. I am very dissapointed.

Here are some ironic snippets of what Rikki says by way of comparison:

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Who really cares if everyone in Swindon has free or cheap access to wi-fi or not?

Well, I do, for a start.
No frikken doubt!  ;D

Quote
  And to be honest, I think we all should. The internet gives power to the people. It’s a massive source of knowledge and enlightenment,
ironic really, as without the internet we wouldn't have been able to discover what was really happening behind the Wi-Fi project

Quote
as well as enabling us to develop applications to make our society safer, more secure, more economically competitive and more environmentally friendly.
What an overblown claim! Last I checked, the internet was one of the greatest tools for crime since the invention of the jemmy.... Go on, read the rest of his argument. I think its more full of holes than a Swiss cheese.  :bash:

back to Mr Buckland...

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In the arena of public life, whether it be the world of Criminal Justice that I have inhabited for many years or the world of government,  openness should be the default position, I suggest.  This is the way proposed by David Cameron and the Conservative Party, and it is something that I strongly support.

So, on the basis of his performance regarding 'openness' on this issue, is Robert still endorsing Rod for a seat in the Lords?

I know there's no such thing as perfection - and mistakes can be made by anyone, but the whole wi-fi issue is in huge danger of turning into a complete debacle which can only do huge damage to public trust. A bit of really frank and honest humility on the behalf of those at the center of the storm would be so welcome.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Des Morgan on March 12, 2010, 10:16:59 am
Rod Bluh is a frightfully nice chap but as nice as he is he should not be considered as a serious candidate for an MBE never mind ermine line robes.  Let's be real if any single person deserved a national honour it should be Mike Bawden - love him or loathe him what cannot be denied is that he has given decades of voluntary political service to the town.

Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Steve Wakefield on March 12, 2010, 10:33:58 am
Rod Bluh is a frightfully nice chap but as nice as he is he should not be considered as a serious candidate for an MBE never mind ermine line robes.  Let's be real if any single person deserved a national honour it should be Mike Bawden - love him or loathe him what cannot be denied is that he has given decades of voluntary political service to the town.

I think it has spanned 5 decades and he was also as a County Councillor, he was once a Conservative Councillor for Western, which goes to show that Swindon can be a swing/barometer/weathervane for all politicians from time to time. :)
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Trollee on March 12, 2010, 10:36:43 am
Rod Bluh is a frightfully nice chap but as nice as he is he should not be considered as a serious candidate for an MBE never mind ermine line robes.  Let's be real if any single person deserved a national honour it should be Mike Bawden - love him or loathe him what cannot be denied is that he has given decades of voluntary political service to the town.

'frightfully nice chap', yes on the surface, but scratch that surface and what lies beneith............
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Muggins on March 12, 2010, 10:42:38 am
Yes, maybe, but if you give it to him, you'd have to give it to David  ::)
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Trollee on March 12, 2010, 10:48:33 am
Yes, maybe, but if you give it to him, you'd have to give it to David  ::)

which david are comparing with Mike Bawden muggins.........
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Trollee on March 12, 2010, 10:51:54 am

From Robert Bucklands blog

.......... I would like to thank the Conservative administration for taking this course of action, allowing for public scrutiny at the time the decision is made, and suggest that if the balance of the loan is to be paid, that all the existing requirements are double checked to make sure that they are realistic and can be ahered to.   

[/quote]

does this include the threat to remove the labour chair of scrutiny then robert and how can the administration scrutinise itself if it does
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Ringer on March 12, 2010, 03:45:36 pm
Troll you working with bobby Bingo on this joint enterprise? You know that the tories would never stifle free speech in Swindon Borough Council. Strangling Monty will be a help to who? Oh penny dropped LibDems of course  ;D giving Scrut to the Libdems?  Maybe an idea for some and it could be that is why the LibDems   :-X  ? I don't know it is getting more like an episode from Yes Minister.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 12, 2010, 07:37:46 pm
Scrutiny must be done externally. This council has proved beyond reasonable doubt that it cannot be trusted to scrutinise itself.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Ringer on March 12, 2010, 08:49:18 pm
Scrutiny must be done externally. This council has proved beyond reasonable doubt that it cannot be trusted to scrutinise itself.

Exactly an episode from Yes Prime Minister. Politician to officer "In private industry, if you screw things up you get the boot; in the council if you screw things up I get the boot"

I am sure there will be more courageous policies coming along?

Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Muggins on March 13, 2010, 09:22:11 am
Trollee - sorry missed your question yesterday.  David Glahom!
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Mart on March 13, 2010, 10:44:20 am
Scrutiny must be done externally. This council has proved beyond reasonable doubt that it cannot be trusted to scrutinise itself.

I like that, even mulling over the inherent risks I could quite fancy a centralised and independent flying squad of pedantic bastards in grey suits.

It would ensure consistency of application wouldn't it?

A one stop shop for scrutiny, criteria for triggering a visit and access for all, it has merit.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Bobby Bingo on March 13, 2010, 02:43:11 pm
Just thought of two wonderful titles for Bawden and Glaholm.
Lord Locarno for Bawden it may give him the incentive to deliver it at last. He has been promising since at least 2005
Baron Broadgreen for the other.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Muggins on March 13, 2010, 04:21:06 pm
Locarno still being discussed ina positive tone at a meeting I go to, and  isn't' that a bit unfair on Broadgreen?

Anyway, we were only talking MBE - not a lordship.  Have fun thinking up what MBE might stand for in their cases.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Richard Symonds on March 13, 2010, 06:33:28 pm
Just thought of two wonderful titles for Bawden and Glaholm.
Lord Locarno for Bawden it may give him the incentive to deliver it at last. He has been promising since at least 2005
Baron Broadgreen for the other.

I can understand the choice of title for Mike B but why Broadgreen for DG and would it compensate for a loss of the Freedom of the Borough?
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Mart on March 13, 2010, 07:56:51 pm
Monkey Brained Eejit.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Piston Broke on March 28, 2010, 12:42:21 pm
Is it true that a lord came here to Swindon to help the labour I bet Bob Buckland will now ask for two :angel:
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Geoff Reid on April 06, 2010, 09:17:53 pm

I think, based on what I've just learned, Lord Bassam might be quite busy in Swindon shortly :)
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Steve Wakefield on May 08, 2010, 08:44:31 am
Rod Bluh is a frightfully nice chap but as nice as he is he should not be considered as a serious candidate for an MBE never mind ermine line robes.  Let's be real if any single person deserved a national honour it should be Mike Bawden - love him or loathe him what cannot be denied is that he has given decades of voluntary political service to the town.

I think it has spanned 5 decades and he was also as a County Councillor, he was once a Conservative Councillor for Western, which goes to show that Swindon can be a swing/barometer/weathervane for all politicians from time to time. :)

Yes so whcih one will get to the Lords first or get a gong?
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Bobby Bingo on May 08, 2010, 11:52:11 am
Bawden has got his "just rewards" from Bluh.
Freedom of the Borough and Mayor for a second time.
Bluh has always been a devious person. Remember when he challenged Dobie, who was absent at the time, for deputy leadership?
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Ringer on May 08, 2010, 05:26:38 pm
It will be interesting to see who is in power this time next week nationally of course.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: tig on May 08, 2010, 05:57:57 pm
or if there is a change of leader in the local council and a reshuffle in the cabinet

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Muggins on May 08, 2010, 06:52:22 pm
Bawden has got his "just rewards" from Bluh.
Freedom of the Borough and Mayor for a second time.
Bluh has always been a devious person. Remember when he challenged Dobie, who was absent at the time, for deputy leadership?


Fairly sure at the time that Dobie was gone for so long he didn't really want the job anyway.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Bobby Bingo on May 09, 2010, 09:26:12 am
Muggins
You could not be any further from the truth.
Dobie was gutted and Bawden spent the whole of the following year looking over his shoulder, but all to no avail. Bluh bought his leadership with Cabinet, and various committee chairmen appointments. Who might I add were very generously reimbursed.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Steve Wakefield on May 09, 2010, 09:50:47 am
Muggins
You could not be any further from the truth.
Dobie was gutted and Bawden spent the whole of the following year looking over his shoulder, but all to no avail. Bluh bought his leadership with Cabinet, and various committee chairmen appointments. Who might I add were very generously reimbursed.

From my recollections Rod Bluh just had an effective campaign manager for both bids that's all no secret there as  to what happened it was a classic 18 month campaign run on his behalf. The question Bobby B is has he got the same for this one?
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Bobby Bingo on May 09, 2010, 11:01:56 am
"The question Bobby B is has he got the same for this one?"
No I believe it is Tricky Rikki.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Ringer on May 11, 2010, 02:00:03 pm
Now the Draconian duo cllrs Bluh and Perkins are ensconced together will they fight to see who gets to the Lords first? Perhaps Robert Buckland can make them all lords? Maybe Justin Tomlinson will get some of his people Freedom of the Borough? cllr Peter Stoddard has been around for donks a nice bloke. I am sure Bobby will have a bit of wit to share?
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Geoff Reid on May 11, 2010, 06:45:01 pm

It's the Tories turn at the trough so we probably ought to expect they'll follow the usual pattern of political crony-ism.

My expectations that Cameron will make any significant electoral/procedural/parliamentary changes are admittedly very low.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Bobby Bingo on May 11, 2010, 06:56:51 pm
Ringer there is no funny side to what you are saying. The Freedom of the Borough is supposed to be a great honour and is bestowed upon people that have committed themselves to Swindon.
Yes I know as well as you that there have been occasions when they have been used for other reasons.
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Geoff Reid on May 11, 2010, 07:08:23 pm

Ringer there is no funny side to what you are saying. The Freedom of the Borough is supposed to be a great honour and is bestowed upon people that have committed themselves to Swindon.
Yes I know as well as you that there have been occasions when they have been used for other reasons.


Crikey.... I just said this elsewhere on TS


Looking forward to seeing who's been given which Cabinet and committee jobs, especially those with stipends attached to them, before taking a view on whether Swindon is infected with a hyper-localised version of pork-barrel politics.

I know what we're talking about isn't exactly Pork-Barrel politics, and it isn't exactly gerrymandering, and it isn't exactly patronage etc, etc, ad infinitum, but....


It occurs to me that: Just as Bluh & Co are coming up with 'innovative', 'unique', 'vibrant' and other exciting ways to re-define the ethical framework of local politics, perhaps we ned to find suitable new words to define them.  :-\


Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Ringer on May 12, 2010, 07:59:28 am
Ringer there is no funny side to what you are saying. The Freedom of the Borough is supposed to be a great honour and is bestowed upon people that have committed themselves to Swindon.


Bobby I agree with you, can you tell the readers of TS how many were not politicians and how many women have been bestowed FOB far example in the last 90 years?

If you can answer that how many Swindon council leaders, officers and MPs have been Knighted? Sir Mike Pitt comes to mind, but I think that was for public services to Kent?

Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Bobby Bingo on May 12, 2010, 09:10:04 am
Information of F.O.B. can be seen on "The Wall of Fame" at the rear of the council chamber.
Regarding getting knighted only David Stoddart comes to mind.
Mind you there are quite a few that should have "got knotted"
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Mellon on May 29, 2010, 01:40:19 pm
I see Mr Wills made it into the house of lords...............that's really got to piss Bluh off!
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Ringer on May 29, 2010, 01:56:27 pm
I see Mr Wills made it into the house of lords...............that's really got to piss Bluh off!

Well Justin made it to parliament so will that be a double whammey?
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: Richard Symonds on May 29, 2010, 07:34:58 pm
I see Mr Wills made it into the house of lords...............that's really got to piss Bluh off!

Well Justin made it to parliament so will that be a double whammey?

No, not now that he is out the way now, surely?  Mind you will Justin enjoy the same alleged heated telephone conversations about SBC funding in the same way as his predecessor Michael Wills?
Title: Re: Rod Bluh for the Lords By Bob Buckland
Post by: kohima on June 02, 2010, 08:21:29 pm
Perhpas, Rod, who is on site, willgive us his view on recent appointments?.
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