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Offline Bobby Bingo

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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #60 on: December 31, 2010, 02:36:59 pm »
My advice is do not waste your time and effort. Greenhalgh has spoken. Enough said. Anyone remember Terry King?
It is a very sad situation but this council would sell off their own grandmother if it was accompanied with some 106 money.
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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #61 on: December 31, 2010, 02:57:27 pm »
My advice is do not waste your time and effort. Greenhalgh has spoken. Enough said. Anyone remember Terry King?
It is a very sad situation but this council would sell off their own grandmother if it was accompanied with some 106 money.

That old chestnut, the 106 money, again.
Could equally be renamed SBC Catch 22 funding.
They allow development, to "reap" 106 funds, the town expands, then we need more 106, so more land is developed for 106 funds, so the town's faceless sprawl increases, so more 106 funding
required......etc.
Sorry to repeat an earlier quote, but the powers that be have failed to grasp the obvious fault for far too long.
The best way to regenerate an established town, has to be to make the best of what it already has. A fantastic history, proud literary, industrial, cultural (conveniently forgotten) heritage, beautiful suburban oasis'.
Time to stop the rot, bite the bullet, change tact.
Stop destroying all that is good, on a whim for developers, before Swindon has an even worse reputation (if that's possible).

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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #62 on: December 31, 2010, 03:05:54 pm »
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Coun Peter Greenhalgh, the cabinet member for sustainability, strategic planning, property and transport, said the new proposal would protect Coate Water because it was designed to make it difficult for more homes to be built nearer to the country park.

I'm concerned for Mr Greenhalghs' sanity. Shouldn't he be taking the ink blot test?

 :WTF: How is planning (encouraging) to build property, going to make it more difficult (not allowing planning), on this land :WTF:
The GWH lie all over again. Very insulting, to the people of Swindon.
The Regional Spatial Strategy "excuse" is long gone, so this only serves to confirm my long term suspicions, that certain members of SBC have an "over cosy" relationship, with developers.

Ironic you say that, because Cllr Bawden was, (until quite recently), allegedley taking legal action against Cllr Greenhalgh for slandering him by making a very similar 'over cosy with developers' comment!  :2funny:

The above reminds me of the following comments made by Anne Snelgrove, (MP for South Swindon 2005 - 2010), who said in Mar 2010 : Hansard Column 98

Quote from: Anne Snelgrove MP
"The cosiness of the relationships of those involved, and the lack of external scrutiny while they were being set up, should alarm all who are interested in local government probity. At the very least, it calls into question the judgment of those concerned, who should have been well aware that they would be called to account, and that they therefore needed to put extra safeguards in place to protect themselves from suspicion as their roles cross over so many times. At worst, it obfuscates actions which gamble public money in untried companies with inexperienced and naive directors, who had no sustainable business plan and were unprepared to answer serious and searching legitimate questions from other elected members as well as local people."

It's worth taking a few steps backward from some of the big issues affecting Swindon, (in which the Bluhligans are either involved or instigating), and try to get a holistic view of where and how, across the whole borough, Swindons political elite have their fingers in various juicy pies and on several scales to tip the balances in favour of whomsoever they are cosy with that month.

Taking a gentle stroll through the text of the Parliamentary Wifi'asco 'Adjournment debate will provide more than few examples of how the Bluhligans like to furtively conduct 'their' business.  When you look closely at almost everything they've been involved with since Rod Bluh was appointed leader, you'll see elements of this modus operandi everywhere, and the same faces cropping up time after time - and I don't just mean Rikki Hunt.

The Cotswold Water Park fiasco will, I am sure, become more interesting to the public soon, as will Rod Bluh, Rikki Hunt & Matthew Singhs relationships with characters like Dennis Grant, chief executive of the Cotswold Water Park Society, who was arrested in April 2010, on suspicion of theft, conspiracy to defraud, money laundering and false accounting.  Grant's colleague, finance Director Nick Hanson, escaped prosecution by kicking the bucket last September.

Oh yes. In these troubled times we must find time to closer observe what all of these characters are up to and how they're connected..... because most of them are connected, and the nature of those connections will have very real effects on the fabric and inhabitants of our town.

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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #63 on: December 31, 2010, 03:19:11 pm »
My advice is do not waste your time and effort. Greenhalgh has spoken. Enough said. Anyone remember Terry King?
It is a very sad situation but this council would sell off their own grandmother if it was accompanied with some 106 money.

Terry King?  was he the chap who spent almost every penny he had defending the Front Garden ?



The best way to regenerate an established town, has to be to make the best of what it already has. A fantastic history, proud literary, industrial, cultural (conveniently forgotten) heritage, beautiful suburban oasis'.
Time to stop the rot, bite the bullet, change tact.
Stop destroying all that is good, on a whim for developers, before Swindon has an even worse reputation (if that's possible).

Ah, well.......I can't say much - but I've been lending what meagre talents I have to a couple of people who are thinking along those lines  :santa_smiley:

Hopefully it won't be long before you hear more from them directly.

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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #64 on: December 31, 2010, 03:30:50 pm »
Ironic you say that, because Cllr Bawden was, (until quite recently), allegedly taking legal action against Cllr Greenhalgh for slandering him by making a very similar 'over cosy with developers' comment!  :2funny:

And, allegedly, not for the first time. Heard something very similar some years ago about a secret draft of an official report allegedly having to be reworded due to the same 'over cosy with developers’ interpretations. Don’t think Greenhalgh was on the cabinet at the time but I’m sure one of his mates who was would have shared the confidential draft report with him…

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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #65 on: December 31, 2010, 03:57:44 pm »

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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #66 on: December 31, 2010, 04:14:40 pm »
Whats changed?

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176. The dissonance between the community strategy’s environmental aims and the council’s willingness to allow development on green-field sites was raised repeatedly in residents’ focus groups, in the survey of voluntary organisations and in group and individual interviews of external stakeholders. There is a feeling that development is uncontrolled and outstripping the council’s ability to ensure that infrastructure is provided and that traffic flows stay manageable. There is concern that open spaces in the town and the rest of the borough may be swallowed up by development and that what is left of the town’s historic built environment may be lost. Other concerns are about lack of activities for young people, cost barriers to leisure activity and the ability of the town to attract and retain employers if the quality of life is not carefully attended to.
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178. Views are mixed about the council’s engagement with the business community. The ruling group fosters close links, taking the view that the prosperity of the town depends upon its success in attracting and retaining business development. However this can create perceptions of over-closeness, and the council needs to ensure that suitable safeguards are in place to protect councillors. Some business partners are positive about the increasing responsiveness and engagement of the council. Others report that partnerships are not adding enough value to what business partnerships can achieve independently, and that business organisations are not in reality being listened to by the council.

http://www.audit-commission.gov.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/InspectionOutput/CorporateAssessments/SwindonCorporateGovernanceInspectionReport2004.pdf

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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #67 on: December 31, 2010, 04:23:53 pm »
Totally agree. It's a process predicated around the con of appearing to serve the interests of the community.

The most depressing part is that, unless the coalition have under Prescott's handiwork already (which I very much doubt), there's very little/nothing the Council can actually do.

As long as the planning application holds up legally, which they almost always do (no maximum number of dwellings necessary, remember kids, only a minimum), then it's nigh on impossible for the Council to block the developers from going ahead with whatever they wish to do. Having been on the wrong end of a an (appalling) planning application process that trounced the local residents, it does make you wonder what the point of the Council Planning Committee even is.
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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #68 on: December 31, 2010, 04:43:24 pm »
That's corporate capitalism for you eh 20Eyes aka the Pantomime Troll

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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #69 on: December 31, 2010, 08:49:33 pm »
Swindon Has representative on the Cotswold Water Park Joint Committee, is that the same as a management board? http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgOutsideBodyDetails.aspx?ID=461&J=1


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Re: revised planning application for Coate just in time for Christmnas.
« Reply #70 on: December 31, 2010, 11:05:35 pm »
I see Greenhalgh is dead against the developments near or in his ward, but then coate is not his ward and its the other side of Swindon, so why should he care.

Sorry can't scan a copy of the link story on this (can some else?) but, it's headline is "Grange Park residents win crucial battle to block hook street building"

Cracking photo of him and a handful of west Swindon councillors in jubilant poses at the news, November link magazine  page 5

Is Coate water not as valuable as Lydiard Park then or is it just not going to worry the residents of his ward? Obviously doesn't mind s**ting in some one else's nest.

Hypocrite.
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