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Offline Steve Wakefield

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Fountain is Being Worked On
« on: July 21, 2010, 04:26:34 pm »
Today it was noticed that the flag stones were up around the fountain, so it looks like work is underway on possibly containing the water run off? Anyone else notice the work being undertaken?
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 05:54:43 pm »
The question that needs asking is who will pay for this?
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 06:10:08 pm »
Steve,

As Swindon's most effective non-politically affiliated councillor, can I ask you to take something up on my behalf? It seems to me that the public arts in this town are in danger of becoming a complete joke. First there was the millennium clock that half the time never worked, now we have 'le pissoir': It seems pretty obvious to one and all that this'll get switched off after the first frost and inevitable fall and injury which'll see the council sued (unless the borough solicitor realises the risk first).

Just round the corner in Farnsby street we have what was considered at the time to be a cutting edge light sculpture which now barely works - three quarters of the bulbs are blown and the rest of it is filled with ver-de-gris.  (not sure if this google street map link will work, but this is what I'm talking about: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=farringdon%20road%20swindon&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl )

I'm all for public art - but its seems that SBC has an obviously poor record conceiving, managing and maintaining them. Things which should enhance our public environment actually end up making it (and us) look ridiculous or shoddy. I think it would be worth looking at the additional costs of maintaining public art - and I think the council should only agree to additional works if they commit to setting aside reasonable budgets to ensure that they can be kept working and looking good.

[edit] - And as Bobby says, be honest about the cost. Many of these pieces of art are presented to us as 'free', having come from developers money - but to keep them looking good requires ongoing cost...
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 06:24:35 pm »
Tobes wrote "Just round the corner in Farnsby street we have what was considered at the time to be a cutting edge light sculpture which now barely works - three quarters of the bulbs are blown and the rest of it is filled with ver-de-gris"   

That would be the biggest Aspidestra Antirhinum  in the world then?

Whilst you are at it Steve, please ask about the Orchid art work that was supposed to be going up whwre the Cricklade road meets Thamesdwon Drive, I'e been looking forward to that for some years now.
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 07:03:09 pm »
That famous tree of light was sponsored by Durex, or at least I think so!
It used to be affectionately known as The Condom Tree.
There was a letter recently by an art student explaining to simple souls like me what the fountain portrayed. He went to great lengths extolling it's beauty and how it relates to the future of Swindon.
My comment would be "Yes it does relate to our future.
It is going down the drain!"
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 10:15:28 pm »
Today it was noticed that the flag stones were up around the fountain, so it looks like work is underway on possibly containing the water run off? Anyone else notice the work being undertaken?

Forgot to tell you it had a fence around it too, so no chance for the clubbers to avail themselves of it presently then!

Another unfortunate thing that should be noted is that the wonderful new £4.9m paving slabs are already looking the worse for wear with stains etc.

and someone made the observation that old bricks gave easy access to any required underground service work and how easy will this be now and for that matter how costly?

and of course no wonder this is all costing so much money.  It will probably need redoing before it is finished at this rate.

What an obsene waste of public money in these hard times.

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 10:22:09 pm »
Why did they take the bricks away anyway? Did rod catch his slippers on one while running upto the BBC studio?
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 11:43:33 pm »
Why did they take the bricks away anyway? Did rod catch his slippers on one while running upto the BBC studio?

It's called Regeneration Mellon!!

but have you seen just how many To Let Boards have manifested themselves in Regent Street so is it working one must ask or could the money have been better spent on stimulating Business Enterprise in Regent Street? 

A job for the Director of Business Tranformation or another Opportunity for Rikki Hunt to shine?

Maybe we do need Wi-fi in the Centre of Town after all but wasn't that part of the Plan originally anyway?

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2010, 08:30:23 am »
To be fair, those bricks were put down in such an haphazard way, not done properly, over time they have sunk and heaved in places, that it  is like walking on  the ocean waves,  (As you get older, you notice such things) but this is about making sure the job is done properly. 

So let's hope they thoroughly check the new slabs.   

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2010, 04:46:15 pm »
Has the Wet Patch gained a Hump? Take a look

http://swindoncentric.blogspot.com/

Maybe the hump is a recycled sleeping policeman that was one of several removed from the road in West Swindon where they were rumoured to have been put in the wrong road?

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 06:56:14 pm »
See 'they' do read TS, I suggested a few weeks agao thatif they could persuade the water to flow slightly to the left it could water the tree!

Does the hump stick up that much, if it does won't a few ankles be ricked on it? 
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2010, 10:29:40 am »
It's a bit depressing that after thousands of years of paving by mankind, some examples of which have lasted for thousands of years, Council can't manage a town centre, absolutely bloody pitiful.

I'll bet they paid over the odds to start with, paid over the odds for the open sewer installation (directly or indirectly) and are now paying over the odds for the repairs, unless someone has had the sense of duty to bang the contractors head repeatedly in a door until they cough up.

Every time I read stuff like this me whimsical 'empty the bins' takes on a bit more resonance.

Empty the bins is my vibrant vision.
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 11:30:06 am »
Went past there this morning and the Electricity Company have dug a bloody great hole.
It appears that when digging to assist the drainage someone cut an electicity supply cable.
I give up!
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2010, 05:39:30 pm »
Went past there this morning and the Electricity Company have dug a bloody great hole.
It appears that when digging to assist the drainage someone cut an electicity supply cable.
I give up!

You couldn't make this up either could you? I wonder if it might find its way into Private Eye? Or Mock the Week?

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2010, 07:39:01 pm »
"Right said Fred, climbing up a ladder "..

google it you young 'uns !

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2010, 08:28:24 pm »
Went past there this morning and the Electricity Company have dug a bloody great hole.
It appears that when digging to assist the drainage someone cut an electicity supply cable.
I give up!

You couldn't make this up either could you? I wonder if it might find its way into Private Eye? Or Mock the Week?

Wait a sec.... I'll see if a bin lorry driver can collide with it?
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2010, 09:27:26 pm »
It appears that when digging to assist the drainage someone cut an electicity supply cable.

Think you'll find that this is now enshrined in law. Whenever a local authority contractor, or sub contractor, digs a hole more than 18" deep they are contractually obliged to sever a power cable. Where no power cable is readily available it is permissible to hack through a comms cable. The crowning achievement of course is a water main. The are bonus payments for gusher height.

Every JCB driver dreams of the triple crown with one bucket scoop, but the real kudos goes to those digging ninjas who take on a power cable with nothing more than a humble shovel.

You get nothing for doing a sewer, it's not big or clever.
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On - Saturday afternoon
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2010, 10:56:39 pm »
busy busy today Saturday on the Fountain Pvers...all juggled with and cracks filled in with sloppy stuff...remains now to be seen when it either rains or the fount is switched on...

holding breath...

watered tree ?  flooded BHS or drains sweetly into new little gully ?

is it just me...or is the sculpture a bit like a couple of damp pringles !!

oops but then I guess my poemy things could be likened to odd things too..

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2010, 11:38:05 am »
Fix the Pissour (now we've got it), fix the Farnsby Street light sculpture - and as Mart says EMPTY THE BINS

All of which could have been paid for by the utterly failed WiFi project, n'est pas?
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2010, 11:50:35 am »
Fix the Pissour (now we've got it), fix the Farnsby Street light sculpture - and as Mart says EMPTY THE BINS

All of which could have been paid for by the utterly failed WiFi project, n'est pas?

Are we agreed that Wi-fi is dead then Tobes? 

Or is it about to receive yet more money from its Council Bankers?

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2010, 07:56:50 pm »
Went for stroll along the new bit today, ending up at the fountain.
Some of the new slabs were not stained. I assume that the stains will be cleanable, or were they slabs not sealed before the were let loose on the general pubilc? Not good.
The finish in places would suggest that it hasn't been finished. Not good.
I really don't know why the sesting isn't curving in line with the curve it's placed on. Not good design.

If I didn't know it was new, I wouldn't have thought it was.

Not impressed.

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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2010, 07:01:01 pm »
Has anyone noticed the new trees planted along the repaved stretch  are looking as though they will die - yellow leaves etc.,   where they planted properly, have they been watered during the dorught - were they waered with cement water?   
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2010, 08:22:05 am »
Has anyone noticed the new trees planted along the repaved stretch  are looking as though they will die - yellow leaves etc.,   where they planted properly, have they been watered during the dorught - were they waered with cement water?

I'm standing out side them now.... oh s*** looks serious, hope we haven't lost 2, looks like upright oaks and 3 Gingkos. The oaks might live, but the Gingko's are is nerious trouble.

Muggins' does R know about these? If you speak to him i think he ought to have a look pronto

Surely if these die its just gonna be typical of SBC can't get a water feature installed properly and can even get soem plants planted without them curling up thier leaves and dying.

I think your rigth, they were put in and not waterd, a recipie for disaster where trees and concenred

the material in the bvase looks dubious as well so can see comment about cement water

well thats what you get when you get a coupel of idle constructyion worker t oput your trees in rather than gardeners
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2010, 08:37:30 am »
Muggins have spoken to R the trees were noticed over the past fortnight and teh tree inspector has had a look. he reckon's its bad but both sets of tree should recover. Dave, the tree inspector is going to keep and eye on them.

R says they were planted by the contractors doing canal walk. he to has his suspicions about wether the cause is root burn from the gravel at teh base. Suspicion is taht they were put in dry initially watered and then left to get thirsty durinng teh dryest summer for ages.

waste of good trees if they die    expensive to replace i suspect at least when SCS plant trees we bother to water them in afterwards

not good is it?
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2010, 09:59:22 am »
Dead tree.... Don't worry they no doubt will be replaced with stainless steel models soon  that bring innovative vibrancy and forward thinking :spin:
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2010, 05:28:49 pm »
The question that needs asking is who will pay for this?

Why not add a coin slot to the side - people could pay to spray! It's commercial and it encourages public involvement!

Ignoring all this recent rain, doesn't it strike anyone else as odd that we've spent so much money to build a fountain in one of the most water-stressed towns in the whole country?
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2010, 05:40:27 pm »
No No don't mention charging anyone to spray, the next thing on the list of things we will soon have to pay for will be to pee.
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Re: Fountain is Being Worked On
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2010, 08:37:47 pm »
I'm afraid there is another possible explanation for the stained slabs and  dead trees.



It's an easy mistake to make....

 

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